Ravitch is Wrong Week, Day #1

April 5, 2010

Diane Ravitch’s new book “The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education” has been burning up the charts. Ravitch has been ubiquitous, writing op-eds in support of her book, doing lectures and interviews all over the place, and being reviewed in all sorts of high-profile venues.

As an overall matter, the book says little, if anything, that is actually new on the subjects of testing and choice. What Ravitch is really selling with this book is the story of her personal and ideological conversion. Not so long ago, she was writing articles like “In Defense of Testing,” or “The Right Thing: Why Liberals Should Be Pro-Choice,” a lengthy article in The New Republic that remains one of the most passionate and eloquent defenses of school choice and vouchers in particular. Now she seems to be a diehard opponent of these things. But she’s not saying anything that other diehard opponents haven’t already said countless times.

The book does score a few points in critiquing the charter school movement (e.g., charter schools have an unfair advantage in competing with Catholic schools in the inner cities, and charter test results haven’t been as promising as might have been expected), or in critiquing testing and accountability (e.g., states have been watering down their standards, as shown by wide discrepancies between NAEP and state tests).

But these few good points are outweighed by the bad arguments and leaps of illogic that permeate much of the book. The book’s faults fall into five general categories, each of which will be the subject of a blog post this week:

  1. Ignoring or selectively citing scholarly literature;
  2. Misinterpreting the scholarly literature that she does cite;
  3. Caricaturing her opponents in terms of strawman arguments, rather than taking the best arguments head-on;
  4. Tendering logical fallacies; and
  5. Engaging in a double standard, such as holding a disfavored position to a high burden of proof while blithely accepting more problematic evidence that supports one’s own position (or not looking for evidence at all).

IGNORING SCHOLARLY LITERATURE

An endemic problem with Ravitch’s book is the tendency to cite only one or two studies on a disputed empirical question as if that settled the matter, while ignoring other (often better) studies that undermine or refute her claims.

For example, Ravitch claims that vouchers don’t pressure traditional public school systems to improve (pp. 129-32), even though the scholarly consensus is precisely the opposite. Ravitch also highlights a couple of studies that failed to find achievement gains from vouchers, but ignores the fact that “9 of the 10 [random assignment studies] show significant, positive effects for at least some subgroups of students.“

One of the most egregious examples arises from Ravitch’s repetitive claim that charter schools tap into the most “motivated” students. This claim appears practically every time Ravitch mentions charter schools. See, e.g., p. 145 (“charter schools are havens for the motivated”); p. 156 (“A lottery for admission tends to eliminate unmotivated students”); p. 212 (“two-tiered system in urban districts, with charter schools for motivated students and public schools for all those left behind”); p. 220 (“Charter schools in urban centers will enroll the motivated children of the poor, while the regular public schools will become schools of last resort for those who never applied or were rejected.”); p. 227 (“Our schools cannot improve if charter schools siphon away the most motivated students”).

Notably, Ravitch doesn’t highlight any actual evidence for this claim. She treats it as definitionally true (“by definition, only the most motivated families apply for a slot,” p. 135). But that is wrong: The only thing that could be true by definition here is that parents who sign up their children for charter schools are the most motivated to sign up their children for charter schools, which is a trivial observation (and one that probably isn’t true anyway: some motivated parents might easily fail to hear about a charter school opportunity, while other parents might sign up on a whim).

But that’s not the “motivation” that Ravitch means. What Ravitch tries to imply — and what she lacks any evidence for — is that charter schools all over the country are over-enrolling those students who are the most motivated to succeed academically. That’s the only thing that could possibly lead to an unfair charter school advantage. To be sure, there are undoubtedly some charter students who are the most academically well-prepared and who are leaving the public school to seek a greener pasture elsewhere. But, Ravitch has zero evidence that these children are in the majority.

Nor would such a contention be consistent with the actual evidence, which Ravitch doesn’t bother to investigate (having presumed to settle the motivation issue “by definition”). In fact, a recent paper by Zimmer et al. analyzed data “from states that encompass about 45 percent of all charter schools in the nation.” They found: “Students transferring to charter schools had prior achievement levels that were generally similar to or lower than those of their [traditional public school] peers. And transfers had surprisingly little effect on racial distributions across the sites.” Similarly, Booker, Zimmer, and Buddin (2005) found that in California and Texas — both huge charter states — students who transferred to charter schools had lower test scores than their peers at public schools.

Given this evidence, it is more plausible to suspect that many charter school entrants have been struggling to get by in the public school, and they (or their parents) are “motivated” only in the sense that they’re trying to find something that might work. It’s hard to see how that sort of motivation would create an unfair advantage on the part of charter schools, as Ravitch wants the reader to believe.

There are numerous other examples of Ravitch ignoring scholarly literature that she finds inconvenient:

1. Ravitch focuses on a few studies about whether charter schools increase test scores. Leaving aside the fact that this is completely incoherent (given that Ravitch’s whole point elsewhere is that test scores shouldn’t be used to tell us the worth of a school), Ravitch ignores the recent study showing that charter schools increased the likelihood that a student will graduate and go to college. These are worthy goals.

2. Ravitch cites Walt Haney’s study asserting that “dramatic gains in Texas on its state tests” were a myth. (p. 96). But she ignores the Toenjes/Dworkin article contending that Haney’s article was biased and unreliable.

3. Ravitch attacks NCLB for failing to bring about its intended goal: improved test scores. For this argument, she relies on snapshots of NAEP scores during the 2000s. (pp. 109-10). But one looks in vain for Ravitch to cite Hanushek and Raymond’s paper noting that it is “not possible to investigate the impact of NCLB directly” — that is, it is not possible to do exactly what Ravitch purported to do. This is because “the majority of states had already instituted some sort of accountability system by the time the federal law took effect . . . 39 states did so by 2000.”

Hanushek and Raymond went on to find that “the introduction of accountability systems into a state tends to lead to larger achievement growth than would have occurred without accountability. The analysis, however, indicates that just reporting results has minimal impact on student performance and that the force of accountability comes from attaching consequences such as monetary awards or takeover threats to school performance. This finding supports the contested provisions of NCLB that impose sanctions on failing schools.” This finding is similar to Carnoy and Loeb 2002 (another paper left uncited by Ravitch), who found that “students in high-accountability states averaged significantly greater gains on the NAEP 8th-grade math test than students in states with little or no state measures to improve student performance.”


Wolf v. Ravitch/Welner on the Effects of School Choice

April 8, 2013

(Guest Post By Jason Bedrick)

Is school choice effective at improving measurable student outcomes?

That question has been at the center of a heated debate between Patrick Wolf of the University of Arkansas and Diane Ravitch, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Education, and one of her supporters. The controversy began when Ravitch attempted to critique Wolf’s studies of voucher programs in Milwaukee and Washington D.C.

After questioning Wolf’s credibility, Ravitch made three main empirical claims, all of which are misleading or outright false:

1) Wolf’s own evaluations have not “shown any test score advantage for students who get vouchers, whether in DC or Milwaukee.” The private schools participating in the voucher program do not outperform public schools on state tests. The only dispute is “whether voucher students are doing the same or worse than their peers in public schools.”

2) The attrition rate in Wolf’s Milwaukee study was 75% so the results only concern the 25% of students who remained in the program.

3) Wolf’s study doesn’t track the students who left the voucher program. (“But what about the 75% who dropped out and/or returned to [the public school system]?  No one knows.”)

Wolf then rebutted those claims:

1) Ravitch ignores the finding that vouchers had a strong positive impact on high school graduation rates. Moreover, there was evidence of academic gains among the voucher students:

The executive summary of the final report in our longitudinal achievement study of the Milwaukee voucher program states:  “The primary finding that emerges from these analyses is that, for the 2010-11 school year, the students in the [voucher] sample exhibit larger growth from the base year of 2006 in reading achievement than the matched [public school] sample.” Regarding the achievement impacts of the DC program, Ravitch quotes my own words that there was no conclusive evidence that the DC voucher program increased student achievement.  That achievement finding was in contrast to attainment, which clearly improved as a result of the program.  The uncertainty surrounding the achievement effects of the DC voucher program is because we set the high standard of 95% confidence to judge a voucher benefit as “statistically significant”, and we could only be 94% confident that the final-year reading gains from the DC program were statistically significant.

2) The attrition rate in the Milwaukee study was actually 56%, not 75%. Ravitch was relying on a third party’s critique of the study (to which Ravitch linked) that had the wrong figure, rather than reading the study herself. Moreover, the results regarding the higher attainment of voucher students are drawn from the graduation rate for all students who initially participated in the voucher program in the 9th grade in the fall of 2006, not just those who remained in the program.

3) Wolf’s team used data from the National Clearinghouse of College Enrollment to track these students into college.

Ravitch responded by hyperventilating about Wolf’s supposed “vitriol” (he had the temerity to point out that she’s not a statistician, didn’t understand the methods she was critiquing, and that she was relying on incorrect secondary sources) and posting a response from Kevin Welner of the University of Colorado at Boulder, who heads the National Education Policy Center (NEPC), which released the critique of Wolf’s study upon which Ravitch had relied.

Welner didn’t even attempt to defend Ravitch’s erroneous first and third claims, but took issue with Wolf’s rebuttal of her second claim. Welner defends the integrity of his organization’s critique by pointing out that when they read Wolf’s study, it had contained the “75% attrition” figure but that the number had been subsequently updated a few weeks later. They shouldn’t be faulted for not knowing about the update. As Welner wrote, “Nobody had thought to go back and see whether Wolf or his colleagues had changed important numbers in the SCDP report.”

That would be a fair point, except for the fact that they did know about the change. As Wolf pointed out, page four of the NECP critique contains the following sentence: “Notably, more than half the students (56%) in the MPCP 9th grade sample were not in the MPCP four years later.” In other words, the author of the NECP critique had seen the corrected report but failed to update parts of his critique. This is certainly not the smoking gun Welner thought it was.

Ravitch replied, again demonstrating her misunderstanding of intention-to-treat (“And, I dunno, but 56% still looks like a huge attrition rate”) and leaving the heavy lifting to Welner. Welner’s main argument is that Wolf should have “been honest with his readers the first time around, instead of implying ignorance or wrongdoing as a cheap way to scores some points against Diane Ravitch and (to a lesser extent) NEPC.” Welner would have had a point if Wolf’s initial response had been to NECP and not Ravitch, but Wolf’s point was that Ravitch was holding herself out as an expert when she had never read the primary source material that she was criticizing. Instead, she relied on a secondary source that cited two contradictory figures. She either didn’t notice or intentionally chose what she thought was the more damning of the two figures—though, again, the figure doesn’t matter for purposes of an intention-to-treat study.

We all make mistakes. Wolf’s team made a mistake in their report and corrected it within a few weeks. Welner has stated that his team will correct the NECP report now that their error has come to their attention a year later. Ravitch should also correct her erroneous assertions regarding the results and methodology of the studies.

(Edited for typo)


Wolf and Witte Slam Ravitch on Milwaukee School Choice

January 18, 2013

Dwight Howard winning the 2008 Slam Dunk Contest.

As I’ve said before, I’m trying to avoid writing about Diane Ravitch because I think it’s now clear to all sensible people that she has gone completely nuts, lacks credibility, and was probablnever much of a scholar.  But I just can’t resist posting a link to the editorial my colleagues Pat Wolf and John Witte wrote today in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.  Wolf and Witte are responding to an earlier op-ed by Ravitch in which she declares:

Milwaukee needs one public school system that receives public dollars, public support, community engagement and parental involvement.

Vouchers and charters had their chance. They failed.

Wolf and Witte actually review the evidence on Milwaukee’s choice programs, including their own research.  They conclude:

Our research signals what likely would happen if Ravitch got her wish and the 25,000 students in the Milwaukee voucher program and nearly 8,000 children in independent charter schools were thrown out of their chosen schools. Student achievement would drop, as every student would be forced into MPS – the only game in town. Significantly fewer Milwaukee students would graduate high school and benefit from college. Parents would be denied educational choices for their children.

That’s not a future we would wish for the good people of Milwaukee.

There’s no point in trying to persuade Ravitch or her Army of Angry Teachers, since they abandoned rationality a long time ago.  But Wolf and Witte have done an excellent job of equipping sensible people with evidence that could help inform their views about school choice in Milwaukee.  Angry blather and bold (but false) declarations cannot compete with actual facts.

[Edited to correct typo in title.]


Diane Ravitch, Historian Who Changes History

September 18, 2012

Diane Ravitch continues to provide considerable comic relief.  I noted last week that she has adopted the role of super-villain by declaring that she, personally, can control the outcome of the presidential election and that President Obama should “heed my advice.”

Well, now the world’s most over-rated historian has decided to change history by erasing her blog post as if she never said those things.  This is not only very un-scholarly, but it is also a major internet no-no.  You can’t just erase a blog post if you are now embarrassed by what you wrote.  You can’t un-say something that you’ve said.  You can apologize, you can amend, you can elaborate, but you can’t just make it as if it never happened.

But the most over-rated historian appears to have simply tried to change history and erase her blog post.  If you click on  my old link, you just get a message that the page cannot be found.   And if you try to find the post by going through the chronology of September posts for September 9 (the date on which it was originally posted), you just won’t see her megalomaniac declaration: “I can determine the winner of the presidency.”  It’s gone.  Erased.

Except that the Internet Archive Wayback Machine happens to keep track of old web sites and you can still see her post here in the web cache.  If only, Ravitch could employ her own Winston from 1984, whose job was to alter and erase history so that the Party was never wrong.  As Orwell writes:

This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs — to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary.

Unlike Ravitch whose own historical record is thankfully preserved by the WayBack Machine despite efforts to the contrary, Winston only had to take the offending writings and then he “dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.”  As the 1984 Party slogan goes: “”Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.”

All of this would be hilarious if it weren’t so pathetically sad.

[Edited for a typo and to update link to old web page]


Diane Ravitch, Super-Villain…. And Related News

September 10, 2012

I’ve avoided writing about Diane Ravitch recently because I think it’s now clear to all sensible people that she has gone completely nuts, lacks credibility, and was probably never much of a scholar.  But I just couldn’t resist noting that in addition to all of her previous vices, Ravitch is now seeking to play the part of a super-villain.  She always had the megalomaniac dimension of a super-villain, but has now added the dimension of making threats if her demands are not met.  In a recent post [UPDATED], she declared:

The election, I hear, will be decided in Ohio and Michigan.  As it happens, I have a very large following of teachers and principals in both states.  My decision could swing several thousand votes in both of these key states.  I hold the election in my hands.  Bwahahahaha! And if my demands are not met within 24 hours I will reverse the Earth’s gravitational pull and everything will go flying into space. Bwahahaha!

Actually she didn’t say the last bit, but she did say that President Obama should “read this and heed my advice… while you still can, puny Earthling.”  Again, she didn’t actually say the last bit, but I think you get the picture.

And in related news… The Chicago Teachers Union has decided to go on strike.  In their own effort to play the part of a super-villain, they are demanding that virtually bankrupt Chicago and its Democratic mayor Rahm Emanuel transform all matter in the universe into currency to pay for increased teacher salaries,  gold-plated pension and health benefits, and a hot tub for each teacher filled with KFC gravy.

And in related news… the Chicago Tribune has reacted to the demands of these super-villains by calling for vouchers for Chicago students.


Alter and Duncan demolish Ravitch

June 3, 2011

 

(Guest Post by Matthew Ladner)

Jonathan Alter calls out Little Ramona. Money quote from Ed Sec. Arne Duncan:

Arne Duncan, President Barack Obama’s normally mild-mannered education secretary, has finally had enough. “Diane Ravitch is in denial and she is insulting all of the hardworking teachers, principals and students all across the country who are proving her wrong every day,” he said when I asked about Ravitch this week.

 

 


The Return of Old Diane Ravitch

May 18, 2011

Good news.  After suspending Old Diane Ravitch‘s account, Twitter is allowing ODR to return as long as ODR changes names to @NOTDianeRavitch.  Of course, the new name is not really accurate.  ODR is tweeting things that Diane Ravitch actually said — just things that she used to say before whatever life-changing event caused her to make a 180.

ODR, or I should now say NDR, also sent me some interesting information about who complained to Twitter.  It is likely that it was our favorite thin-skinned and unreliable historian:

They sent me their guidelines for parody accounts (https://support.twitter.com/articles/106373), which contains a link to a page on their impersonation policy (https://support.twitter.com/articles/18366-impersonation-policy).
This page clearly states that “Twitter processes impersonation reports from the user being impersonated or someone legally authorized to act on behalf of the user/entity.” In other words, given that Twitter said they recieved a valid report that my account is engaged in non-parody impersonation and their policy that they only process reports from the user being impersonated (or their representative), it must be the case that the report came from Diane Ravitch (or someone she authorized to make the report).

In case Diane Ravitch or her legally authorized agent complain some more and get NDR removed from Twitter, I’ve reproduced all of ODR/NDR’s previous tweets below.

Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
But eventually, our society must face up to the challenge of educating all children.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
Change is happening; it cannot be stopped, though, of course, it can be slowed, delayed, and compromised.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
Many educators showed no interest in learning why American students seem to do worse as they get older. Instead, they attacked the test.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
Hefty increases in inputs produced very little gain in student performance.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
The schools are not meeting today’s challenge despite the fact that we have significantly increased the resources available for education.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
But first a few closing thoughts from my article in @CityJournal:http://bit.ly/dvz8Pd
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
We all know how the story of @OldDianeRavitch ends. Tomorrow I trade in my Kool-Aid for a new flavor. Follow the new me: @DianeRavitch.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
There is clearly a role for research, however, even if it is just producing ammunition for different sides. http://bit.ly/ezhO76
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
I believe that this is fundamentally a political struggle. It will be resolved in the political arena, and the data will become ammunition.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
Some say it’s wrong to try a new strategy without a record of success, yet prevent new ideas from getting a fair trial.http://bit.ly/eROkHL
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
We must give poor kids a chance to escape the schools that are cruelly not educating them. http://bit.ly/gSTiwr
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
We must do whatever we can to end the awful cycle of wasted lives—which includes giving vouchers a chance.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
The evidence on vouchers is scarce because of the largely successful campaign to block vouchers. http://bit.ly/gSTiwr
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
Some studies suggest that the school system in Milwaukee has responded positively to competition with non-public schools.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
What rankles those who have no choice in the current system is that there are ample choices for those who have the resources to move.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
Vouchers have now become a civil rights issue for a new generation of African American activists.
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
I supported NCLB because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Who would want to leave any child behind? http://bit.ly/b1RFNa00:08
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
I had some wonderful teachers, I had some terrible teachers.http://bit.ly/h9Tu5u 06:36
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
We have public schools that are absolutely spectacular and we have some that are awful schools. http://bit.ly/h9Tu5u 00:40
Old Diane Ravitch
OldDianeRavitch Old Diane Ravitch
If the public schools cannot do better than these alternatives, it should be up to the parents. http://bit.ly/ezhO76
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
If we found no difference in performance between charter, voucher, and regular public schools, it would not be a victory for the status quo.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
We need value-added assessment so that we can be sure that kids are gaining from the instruction. http://bit.ly/ezhO76
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
We need to have absolute standards that hold for all students and that cannot be qualified by variables such as class or race.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
I would be outraged if a social scientist told me my child was doing as well as could be expected for a child of his race, class, or gender.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
I am a historian, and that means I do not have the social science background that many of the people in this room have.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
We must not teach children to tolerate fanaticism, be it political or religious. http://bit.ly/l3bwre
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
We must not teach children to tolerate those who hijack commercial jetliners and kill innocent victims.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Shanker warned that multiculturalism, as it is taught in the United States, is dangerous for a democratic, multiethnic society.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Children in educationally bankrupt schools should be offered scholarships to use in any accredited school. http://nyti.ms/fvgSZf
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Despite the outpouring of media about a test backlash, it turns out that the public is not opposed to testing. http://bit.ly/hQzg0b
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
By adding an element of accountability, public charter schools actually strengthen the hand of local officials. http://bit.ly/eROkHL
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
In case you missed the YouTube video of my debate with @DianeRavitchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khn5q62o9LQ
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Many education reformers today are saying, “I hate privatization, but give me the money and don’t hold me accountable.”http://bit.ly/ezhO76
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Title I money should go to kids, not school districts, just the way higher education funding follows students. http://bit.ly/gXhIwj
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Poor kids in Title I schools do not perform better in school than poor kids who are not in Title I schools.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
The federal government has poured more than $100 billion into Title I for poor kids, with little to show for it.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Of course money matters and we should spend more money where more money is needed. No question about it. But there are other problems. 31:30
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Educators dumbed down curriculum because they thought most kids couldn’t do it; by having low expectations they reinforced mediocrity. 26:50
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Any school that’s a good school we should feel happy about; not just say rah-rah for public schools and boo to non-public schools. 20:25
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
People who went to Catholic schools and other kinds of schools are also good Americans. Our system of education is very pluralistic. 19:45
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Next four tweets are from my appearance on @NPR‘s Talk of the Nation (@totn): http://n.pr/lFd6wO (need RealPlayer to listen)
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
The quest for higher student performance is likely to be stymied by the large proportion of poorly prepared teachers. http://bit.ly/fGhGAL
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
What is the point of learning how to teach, if you don’t know what to teach? http://bit.ly/gi7b3O
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
An undergraduate major in education makes little sense.http://bit.ly/gi7b3O
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Instead of requiring irrelevant education courses, should examine prospective teachers for their academic knowledge.http://bit.ly/fOh3hY
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Debate with my formidable future self @DianeRavitch is now on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khn5q62o9LQ
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Video of my debate with @DianeRavitchhttp://bit.ly/klL30I
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
It is hard to understand the hysteria stirred by the fear of choice with regard to the public schools. http://bit.ly/ezhO76
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Vouchers and charters will not destroy public education. This is an incredible and fantastic fear.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Head Start has abandoned its focus on education in favor of an array of social services, nutrition and counseling. http://bit.ly/f13Rwg
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Social promotion pushes youngsters into high school even if they cannot read, and eventually causes them to drop out.http://nyti.ms/g509Zq
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Shanker: Schools need rigorous tests that have real consequences for students. http://bit.ly/gRxFE7
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Shanker: “Our current system is devastatingly bad for all our youngsters.”
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
First Teach Them English. http://nyti.ms/eTjr09
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch

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@jaypgreene Sounds like you’re still sore from when I called out your misleading defense of bilingual education in the WSJ (7/10/98)
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
I object to the practice of assigning new teachers to troubled schools, often as a result of union seniority rules.http://nyti.ms/hakLGd
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
Thanks for the follow @m_rhee — the next tweet’s for you!
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
@m_rhee The system we have serves adults, not children. Let’s reverse that formula. http://nyti.ms/fvgSZf
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
The public school system would be strengthened by the ability to shut down bad schools. http://bit.ly/eGNq4g
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
It is unjust there is no realistic way to force the closure of schools that students and parents would abandon if they could.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
If the current system is successful for only half of students, then new approaches must be sought to help everyone elsehttp://bit.ly/eROkHL
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
The challenge to public education today is not to reinforce the correlation between achievement and social class, but to sever it.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch
There is a tendency to rationalize poor performance by implying that poverty equals destiny and so no one is to blame for failure.
NOT Diane Ravitch
NOTDianeRavitch NOT Diane Ravitch

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@DianeRavitch Without testing, there is no consistent way to measure success or failure. http://nyti.ms/hakLGd
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@DianeRavitch Future self, I can tell that you are going to be a formidable opponent.
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@DianeRavitch Many states are clamoring to reduce class size, but few are grappling with the most important questions.http://bit.ly/fOh3hY
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@DianeRavitch Public contracting is often referred to as “privatization,” but that label is misleading. http://bit.ly/eROkHL
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It may be harder to graduate from high school than to become a certified teacher. http://bit.ly/fOh3hY
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@MichaelPetrilli I agree. Every school should have the power to select its own teachers, remove the incompetents.http://nyti.ms/gEEwOR
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Texas model has successfully improved the performance of black and Hispanic students, particularly in math and writinghttp://nyti.ms/dUlirj
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Congress should focus on the quality, not quantity, of the nation’s teaching corps. http://bit.ly/fOh3hY
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NYC schools chancellor should have the power to close schools that consistently fail or engage in corrupt practices.http://nyti.ms/gEEwOR
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Every classroom should have a well-educated, knowledgeable teacher. We are far from that goal today. http://bit.ly/fOh3hY

Diane Ravitch, Unreliable Historian?

May 17, 2011

As I’ve wondered before, how do we know whether historians, like Diane Ravitch, are actually reliable in their account of what happened?  Unlike quantitative empirical analyses, which can be replicated relatively easily by other scholars and have pretty well-established norms for quality work, we often have to rely on the authority of the historian and trust that he or she is accurate.  Yes, other historians can read the same original documents and dispute a historian’s interpretation, but few historians work on the same highly specialized questions and readers never know whether disputes among historians reveal a serious error of scholarship or just a reasonable difference of interpretation.

I bring all of this back up because there is a new dispute involving Diane Ravitch’s reliability in providing an accurate account of events.  The events involve a meeting she had with Rhode Island Governor, Lincoln Chafee, the state’s education Commissioner, Deborah Gist, and some aides.  Ravitch felt that Gist was rude, constantly interrupted her, and generally behaved in an unacceptable manner.

Ravitch was so insulted that she wrote a blog post about it.  According to her account of events:

Gist is clearly a very smart, articulate woman. But she dominated the conversation, interrupted me whenever I spoke, and filibustered to use up the limited time. Whenever I raised an issue, she would interrupt to say, “That isn’t happening here.” She came to talk, not to listen. It became so difficult for me to complete a sentence that at one point, I said, “Hey, guys, you live here all the time, I’m only here for a few hours. Please let me speak.” But Gist continued to cut me off. In many years of meeting with public officials, I have never encountered such rudeness and incivility. I am waiting for an apology.

Ravitch’s complaints generated an article in the Providence newspaper in which she elaborated on her interpretation of events:

“Over the past half-century, I have met with many governors, state superintendents, congressmen, senators, Cabinet members, and every president since Lyndon B. Johnson (I met John F. Kennedy in 1958, when he was senator from Massachusetts),” Ravitch wrote in an e-mail to The Journal Tuesday afternoon. “I have never encountered such behavior.”

Deborah Gist has a very different recollection of events.  According to Sean Cavanaugh’s reporting on this over at his Ed Week blog:

Gist remembers things differently. In an interview with me Friday afternoon, she described the session, which lasted 50 minutes, as a “productive meeting and a good conversation.”…

“I certainly didn’t feel like I’d been disrespected, and I didn’t feel that I’d disrespected her,” Gist told me. “I feel like it’s unfortunate that any of us are spending time on it, because we all have more important things to work on.”

Governor Chafee, who is not generally an ally of Commissioner Gist, confirms Gist’s account.  He issued the following statement after Ravitch raised a ruckus about Gist’s “rudeness”:

“I was very glad that Deborah Gist, our Commissioner of Education, was able to join me and several statewide labor leaders for a private conversation with Diane Ravitch during Ms. Ravitch’s recent visit toRhode Island. We enjoyed a lively discussion about many aspects of education reform. From my perspective, Commissioner Gist comported herself in an appropriate and respectful way at all times during this discussion.”

Which account should we believe?  Ravitch is a prominent authority on education and acclaimed historian, as she and her horde of acolytes repeatedly remind us.  If we can’t trust her to provide an accurate account of events in her own life, how are we supposed to trust her account of events in the past, pieced together from various archival documents.  If she just weaves a story to suit her purposes, regardless of its accuracy, that would be very worrisome.

Fortunately, there was also a documentary film-maker present who videotaped the exchange between Ravitch and Gist.  The film-maker is a bit skittish about getting involved in this controversy and so will only release the tape if all parties agree.  Gist has consented and Ravitch has asked to see the video before giving her permission.  This is an important test of Ravitch’s credibility.  If she is the reliable chronicler of events that she claims, she should be eager to have the video released to confirm her account.

So far she has not given permission, and there may be good reason why she may refuse ever to do so.  According to others who have viewed the tape, it does not support Ravitch’s account.  According to one source, Gist does interrupt Ravitch once during the 50 minute meeting while Ravitch interrupts Gist 6 times.  I can’t be sure whether this source is accurate, but the simple way to resolve this uncertainty is for Ravitch to allow the video to be released so we can all see the truth and know just how reliable she is.

There are good reasons to doubt Ravitch’s credibility.  First, the statement from Governor Chafee contradicts Ravitch’s account even though he has no particular motive to do so.  Second, Ravitch clearly has an inflated ego, thin-skin, and has been unreliable in other claims she has made. And third, Gist is eager to have the video released while Ravitch so far has not given her consent.  It sounds like Ravitch has more to hide.

Let’s see the video.  And if Ravitch does not allow it, we can assume what the video contains.


Is Ravitch Really A Great Historian?

November 30, 2010

Given Diane Ravitch’s clear record of selectively and misleadingly citing the evidence on current education debates, we should wonder whether her much-lauded historical work contains similar distortions.  Someone so willing to pick and choose the evidence to serve her argument about current debates may well have the same proclivity to advance her preferred historical interpretation.

Detecting how Ravitch selectively reads the current evidence is relatively easy because the full scope of current research is knowable without too much effort.  But the full set of historical evidence from which an author chooses is less easily known to a lay reader.  How can anyone beyond the handful of scholars who have reviewed the original documents on a particular subject know whether Diane Ravitch or any other historian is correctly selecting and interpreting historical evidence?

The reality is that we can’t.  Most people tend to think that a historian is good because he or she writes well and makes an argument that is generally preferred by the reader.  It’s even unreliable to fully trust the opinion of other historians when assessing the quality of historical work.  Very few historians are intimately familiar with the same material, especially if the topic is highly specialized — like the history of American education.  And among those few historians their judgment on the quality of another person’s work may be colored by their professional interests in advancing similar interpretations or hindering opposing ones.

In short, it is very hard to know whether someone is really a great historian.  It is certainly harder to know the quality of historical work than empirical social science, especially when data sets are widely available and analyses can be replicated without too much effort.

Given that it is hard to know the quality of historical work and given Diane Ravitch’s distortion of the evidence in current debates, I’m inclined to doubt the quality of her earlier historical work.  Ravitch may have changed her views on some things but I highly doubt she has changed her standards of scholarship.  So, if her scholarship is lousy now, perhaps it was lousy before.

I’d be curious to hear examples that anyone may have of where Ravitch was sloppy or misleading in her historical work.  I bet they are out there even if they are harder to discover than her current sloppy and misleading work.


Ravitch is Wrong Site

November 29, 2010

Why serious people continue to care about what Diane Ravitch says is a mystery to me.  I know why rabid union-members and their allies keep lauding her and citing her as an authority — they like whoever repeats their talking points.  But why do journalists, like Valerie Strauss at the Washington Post, continue to act like Diane Ravitch matters?  Why does the Wall Street Journal give her valuable real estate on their editorial page to repeat untrue distortions, like:

To qualify for Race to the Top money, states and districts were expected to evaluate their teachers by using student test scores, even though research consistently warns of the flaws of this method. [Not true, as a Brookings blue ribbon panel just concluded that the research shows value added testing can be a helpful tool for teacher evaluations.] Similarly, the Obama administration is pressing states and districts to replace low-performing regular public schools with privately managed charter schools, even though research demonstrates that charters don’t, on average, get better academic results than regular public schools. [Again, not true.  Ravitch ignores the positive results of high quality random assignment charter evaluations in Boston and New York and instead focuses exclusively on a lower quality evaluation by Macke Raymond)]

Let’s say out loud what many people know but few have publicly said.  Diane Ravitch has undergone a personal, not an intellectual, transformation.  Because of that personal change she has acquired a new set of friends, including AFT boss Randi Weingarten.  Ravitch is basking in the admiration of these new friends for her remarks, but they are not well-thought-out or intellectually honest positions.

We devoted an entire week on JPGB to feature Stuart Buck’s documentation of how Ravitch is not an intellectually serious person anymore.  Now Whitney Tilson has organized an entire web site on his new blog that lists a host of critiques of the personally-transformed Diane Ravitch. It’s an extremely useful resource to which you can refer gullible journalists, like Strauss and the WSJ editors, whenever they start treating Ravitch as if she were a credible authority.