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	<title>Comments on: Incentives and Motivation</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Forster</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2009/12/09/incentives-and-motivation/#comment-7832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Forster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you expect unions to care about their members instead of their own self-interest then it&#039;s no wonder you find their actions mystifying. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you expect unions to care about their members instead of their own self-interest then it&#8217;s no wonder you find their actions mystifying. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Saba</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2009/12/09/incentives-and-motivation/#comment-7831</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a big Herzburg fan and wrote an article on applying his methods.  It is a mystery to me why the union does not spend more time and effort on work re-design for motivating more teachers and workplace conditions to end de-motivation.  If they truly cared about their members wouldn&#039;t this deserve more focus than gay marraige initiatives?  

Technology will force the re-design of the teaching profession and it could really motivate our teachers to do more for students.  But that is going to have to come from the outside.  I don&#039;t see anyone on the inside pushing for this. 

(the article appeared in Industrial Engineering Magazing back in 1992 - so no online version sadly)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big Herzburg fan and wrote an article on applying his methods.  It is a mystery to me why the union does not spend more time and effort on work re-design for motivating more teachers and workplace conditions to end de-motivation.  If they truly cared about their members wouldn&#8217;t this deserve more focus than gay marraige initiatives?  </p>
<p>Technology will force the re-design of the teaching profession and it could really motivate our teachers to do more for students.  But that is going to have to come from the outside.  I don&#8217;t see anyone on the inside pushing for this. </p>
<p>(the article appeared in Industrial Engineering Magazing back in 1992 &#8211; so no online version sadly)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Forster</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess one way of putting it is that what&#039;s really important about the &quot;Rock Star Pay&quot; reform isn&#039;t the Pay part but the Rock Star part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess one way of putting it is that what&#8217;s really important about the &#8220;Rock Star Pay&#8221; reform isn&#8217;t the Pay part but the Rock Star part.</p>
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		<title>By: matthewladner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg-

I think you are on to something here. Merit pay programs ought not to be aimed at providing a few more sheckels for a bit better of an effort.

The main problem in my view is a huge (rational) bias held by capable and ambitious people against the teaching profession. Offering highly productive people into a union pay scale box with 22 students and the only way to advance is to get old is absurd.

Rock star pay for rock star teachers. I don&#039;t know how many students that rock star teachers can get big value added gains out for, but I sure do want to find out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg-</p>
<p>I think you are on to something here. Merit pay programs ought not to be aimed at providing a few more sheckels for a bit better of an effort.</p>
<p>The main problem in my view is a huge (rational) bias held by capable and ambitious people against the teaching profession. Offering highly productive people into a union pay scale box with 22 students and the only way to advance is to get old is absurd.</p>
<p>Rock star pay for rock star teachers. I don&#8217;t know how many students that rock star teachers can get big value added gains out for, but I sure do want to find out.</p>
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