Comments on: This is the Song That Never Ends http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/ With Help From Some Friends Sat, 26 May 2012 22:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Unionizing charter schools, bashing teacher unions and really all unions: how the right wing makes us hate organized working people | Dailycensored.com http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/#comment-12157 Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:33:17 +0000 http://jaypgreene.com/?p=3627#comment-12157 [...] Greene, J. P. “This is the song that never ends.”  Website:   http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/ [...]

]]> By: Teacher Unionism And Student Achievement: The Grounds For Skepticism | Edwize http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/#comment-5093 Mon, 25 May 2009 16:33:09 +0000 http://jaypgreene.com/?p=3627#comment-5093 [...] “wrong” conclusions about an issue, it becomes suspect scholarship. Jay Greene’s response to a post of mine last week, in which I pointed that the weight of scholarly literature on the [...]

]]> By: Borderland » Blog Archive » Back and Forth and Back on Teacher Unions http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/#comment-5041 Fri, 22 May 2009 17:36:43 +0000 http://jaypgreene.com/?p=3627#comment-5041 [...] Jay Greene: Caroline Hoxby’s study, upon which I base my claims, employs a vastly superior research design…. But even if Leo insisted upon relying on the literature reviews he cites rather than the higher quality research, he would have to accept some results that aren’t very flattering to teacher unions. Those lit reviews find that unionization raises the cost of education by about 8% to 15%. In addition, they find that unionization tends to hurt the academic achievement of high-achieving and low-achieving students while benefiting more typical students found in the middle of the ability distribution. [...]

]]> By: Jay P. Greene http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/#comment-5022 Thu, 21 May 2009 14:01:50 +0000 http://jaypgreene.com/?p=3627#comment-5022 I would also note that Leo relies mostly on studies that are not in peer-reviewed journals as well as research conducted by or funded (sometimes indirectly)by the unions.

I didn’t make these points in the post because I do not think that peer-review or the source of funding determine the truth or falsehood of research claims. But Leo and friends regularly make these arguments. I guess we can add hypocrite to the list of sock-puppet, steakholder etc… epithets.

]]> By: Greg Forster http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/#comment-5020 Thu, 21 May 2009 13:37:01 +0000 http://jaypgreene.com/?p=3627#comment-5020 So Leo endorses research showing that his preferred policies destroy the lives of minority students in order to divert ever-larger amounts of taxpayer money to the union gravy train?

His Sith training is coming along very nicely.

]]> By: Patrick http://jaypgreene.com/2009/05/20/this-is-the-song-that-never-ends/#comment-5017 Thu, 21 May 2009 04:43:05 +0000 http://jaypgreene.com/?p=3627#comment-5017 This is why I wish I had of gone to a graduate school that focused on quantitative analysis instead of postmodernist qualitative theories…like constructivism. Curse my retched love of college football.

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