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	<title>Comments on: What Does Florida Tell Us About Broader/Bolder?</title>
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		<title>By: Missing Info AGAIN?</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/09/04/what-does-florida-tell-us-about-broaderbolder/#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missing Info AGAIN?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I decided to answer my own question as I already see you omit information I find needed.  Sadly, and I hope you can prove me wrong, I believe I AGAIN find evidence of a faulty picture.  I was even able to find this evidence using the work of Jay Greene and Marcus Winters in &quot;Revisiting Grade Retention: An Evaluation of Florida Test-Based Promotion Policy&quot;. The abstarct begins &quot;In 2002, Florida adopted a test based promotion policy in third grade qs an attempt to end social promotion&quot;.  Last I knew,
your comparison year of 1998 preceded 2002 and thus the retention policy was not in effect.  Do I smell deception?? Politics at any cost?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to answer my own question as I already see you omit information I find needed.  Sadly, and I hope you can prove me wrong, I believe I AGAIN find evidence of a faulty picture.  I was even able to find this evidence using the work of Jay Greene and Marcus Winters in &#8220;Revisiting Grade Retention: An Evaluation of Florida Test-Based Promotion Policy&#8221;. The abstarct begins &#8220;In 2002, Florida adopted a test based promotion policy in third grade qs an attempt to end social promotion&#8221;.  Last I knew,<br />
your comparison year of 1998 preceded 2002 and thus the retention policy was not in effect.  Do I smell deception?? Politics at any cost?</p>
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		<title>By: Missing Info</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/09/04/what-does-florida-tell-us-about-broaderbolder/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missing Info]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is the information as to third grade retention policy in Florida, which clears grade four of numerous students who would score poorly? Was that retention policy in effect in 1999? If so, what was the criteria and why omit information which describes the population and may differentiate it from comparison groups? If you remove unsuccessful learners from  a group, is it ethical to compare this group to unfiltered groups aithout revealing such information?  Is your motive political or educational??
If unsuccessful learners are removed, why celebrate stats that exclude the poor performers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the information as to third grade retention policy in Florida, which clears grade four of numerous students who would score poorly? Was that retention policy in effect in 1999? If so, what was the criteria and why omit information which describes the population and may differentiate it from comparison groups? If you remove unsuccessful learners from  a group, is it ethical to compare this group to unfiltered groups aithout revealing such information?  Is your motive political or educational??<br />
If unsuccessful learners are removed, why celebrate stats that exclude the poor performers?</p>
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		<title>By: Required Reading at The Core Knowledge Blog</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/09/04/what-does-florida-tell-us-about-broaderbolder/#comment-1934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Required Reading at The Core Knowledge Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] What Does Florida Tell Us About Broader/Bolder? at Jay P. Greene&#8217;s Blog Given that we can’t spend our way out of our K-12 problems (and it wouldn’t work if we tried) we should instead seek ways to improve the bang we get for our existing bucks. Fortunately, Florida shows that it can be done. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What Does Florida Tell Us About Broader/Bolder? at Jay P. Greene&#8217;s Blog Given that we can’t spend our way out of our K-12 problems (and it wouldn’t work if we tried) we should instead seek ways to improve the bang we get for our existing bucks. Fortunately, Florida shows that it can be done. [...]</p>
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