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	<title>Comments on: Fortune Favors the Bold</title>
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		<title>By: Randy Cox</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/02/fortune-favors-the-bold/#comment-9018</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know how contrived methods of judgment are going to give us the data we need to make our schools better.  The real test is how we compare with the rest of the developed world in academics and industry.

As a nation we still spend more than we take in.  We don&#039;t understand service on the debt, and we lose jobs to the less developed.

How about a little personal responsibility?  How about we admit that our schools are not teaching well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how contrived methods of judgment are going to give us the data we need to make our schools better.  The real test is how we compare with the rest of the developed world in academics and industry.</p>
<p>As a nation we still spend more than we take in.  We don&#8217;t understand service on the debt, and we lose jobs to the less developed.</p>
<p>How about a little personal responsibility?  How about we admit that our schools are not teaching well?</p>
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		<title>By: Missing Info AGAIN?</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/02/fortune-favors-the-bold/#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missing Info AGAIN?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When wil Mr. Ladner STOP deceieving people about wonderful events which are not wonderful? Our grade 4 is filtered by a mandatory retention policy in grade 3. Thus our grade 4 results would not be typical nor fair to compare with an unfiltered sample. Yet Mr. ladner continues to do so . 
I have also found Mr. Ladner to compare proficiency rates of fourth graders of samples before the third grade retention policy and after but I have not seen him mention that 
there is a difference in the situations.  If one group has been filtered of its strugglers and one has not, what is the excitement that the filtered group creates better data?
I am also awarethat Mr. ladner has been emailed a study showing that our accountability system fails to measure school quality. Florida does not employ value added methodology. Therefore, if Mr. ladner responsibly,as he does above, supports a value added methodology, he would not be peddling Florida.
Florida scores very poorly on high school measures and has one of the worst graduation staitstics.  A large percentage of our college students require remediation.
  If Mr. Ladner wants to puish vouchers, I would like to see what in my opinion would be ethical persuasions and not irresponible presentations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When wil Mr. Ladner STOP deceieving people about wonderful events which are not wonderful? Our grade 4 is filtered by a mandatory retention policy in grade 3. Thus our grade 4 results would not be typical nor fair to compare with an unfiltered sample. Yet Mr. ladner continues to do so .<br />
I have also found Mr. Ladner to compare proficiency rates of fourth graders of samples before the third grade retention policy and after but I have not seen him mention that<br />
there is a difference in the situations.  If one group has been filtered of its strugglers and one has not, what is the excitement that the filtered group creates better data?<br />
I am also awarethat Mr. ladner has been emailed a study showing that our accountability system fails to measure school quality. Florida does not employ value added methodology. Therefore, if Mr. ladner responsibly,as he does above, supports a value added methodology, he would not be peddling Florida.<br />
Florida scores very poorly on high school measures and has one of the worst graduation staitstics.  A large percentage of our college students require remediation.<br />
  If Mr. Ladner wants to puish vouchers, I would like to see what in my opinion would be ethical persuasions and not irresponible presentations.</p>
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		<title>By: Link-O-Rama…Zeitgeist, News, Articles, Blog Posts, And An Edujob! at More About Education</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/02/fortune-favors-the-bold/#comment-1356</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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