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		<title>By: News: Accountability and Status Quo Apology &#171; The Voice for School Choice</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/01/taking-the-public-out-of-public-schools/#comment-1373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[News: Accountability and Status Quo Apology &#171; The Voice for School Choice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 15, 2008 &#183; No Comments  Economist Jay P. Greene notes that public schools tend to offer less disclosure and transparency than private ones (though [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Greg Forster</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/01/taking-the-public-out-of-public-schools/#comment-1081</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vouchers make schools more accountable, not less. The most effective accountability is to be able to leave a school that isn&#039;t serving you and find a school that will. Without vouchers, there&#039;s not much you can do to fight the system.

As for data being less available after NCLB, that&#039;s exactly the reverse of the truth. NCLB requires states to make a huge amount of data available that they didn&#039;t even have to collect before, much less make it available. You can&#039;t fight them to get your hands on data that they don&#039;t even collect! And the system was always hostile to releasing information - all bureaucracies are. What you&#039;re really proposing here is a policy of appeasement: stop antagonizing the bureaucracy by reuqiring it to perform its job, and maybe in return it will begrudgingly agree to give us some of the information that it&#039;s legally required to release (under FOIA laws if nothing else).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vouchers make schools more accountable, not less. The most effective accountability is to be able to leave a school that isn&#8217;t serving you and find a school that will. Without vouchers, there&#8217;s not much you can do to fight the system.</p>
<p>As for data being less available after NCLB, that&#8217;s exactly the reverse of the truth. NCLB requires states to make a huge amount of data available that they didn&#8217;t even have to collect before, much less make it available. You can&#8217;t fight them to get your hands on data that they don&#8217;t even collect! And the system was always hostile to releasing information &#8211; all bureaucracies are. What you&#8217;re really proposing here is a policy of appeasement: stop antagonizing the bureaucracy by reuqiring it to perform its job, and maybe in return it will begrudgingly agree to give us some of the information that it&#8217;s legally required to release (under FOIA laws if nothing else).</p>
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		<title>By: illusionsformoney</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/01/taking-the-public-out-of-public-schools/#comment-1048</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always been against vouchers and I think the idea of losing accountability is only one part of the issue. Just because you can&#039;t obtain the data doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t hold the schools accountable. It also was probably easier to get some of this information before NCLB, mainly guessing there, but there wasn&#039;t as big a stigma on certain data before NCLB. It just was what it was, even if it was scarring.

Just to the above commenter, Public schooling is not a joke. Such a broad statement. There is just a serious dilemma on how good public schooling can be more widespread. A lot of times the issues don&#039;t lie with schools alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been against vouchers and I think the idea of losing accountability is only one part of the issue. Just because you can&#8217;t obtain the data doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t hold the schools accountable. It also was probably easier to get some of this information before NCLB, mainly guessing there, but there wasn&#8217;t as big a stigma on certain data before NCLB. It just was what it was, even if it was scarring.</p>
<p>Just to the above commenter, Public schooling is not a joke. Such a broad statement. There is just a serious dilemma on how good public schooling can be more widespread. A lot of times the issues don&#8217;t lie with schools alone.</p>
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		<title>By: CM'Blog</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/07/01/taking-the-public-out-of-public-schools/#comment-1047</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi. For once, I feel someone has finally said it right. Public Schooling is a joke. Anyway, I’m looking to build up incoming links for my blog. Would you like to exchange blogroll links with me? If yes, please visit: http://greatdebater.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/why-i-blog/ and leave your URL there. The purpose of my blog is to generate debate on anything and everything that matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. For once, I feel someone has finally said it right. Public Schooling is a joke. Anyway, I’m looking to build up incoming links for my blog. Would you like to exchange blogroll links with me? If yes, please visit: <a href="http://greatdebater.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/why-i-blog/" rel="nofollow">http://greatdebater.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/why-i-blog/</a> and leave your URL there. The purpose of my blog is to generate debate on anything and everything that matters.</p>
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