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		<title>By: KD</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/#comment-26352</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: #98. The Michael Oher Story &#124; Stuff Black People Don&#039;t Like 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[#98. The Michael Oher Story &#124; Stuff Black People Don&#039;t Like 2.0]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a white family to magnanimously welcome him into the home, where he found compassionate people who cared for his well-being:  &#8220;Michael Oher grew up in inner-city Memphis. In and out of foster care, Michael’s lucky [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a white family to magnanimously welcome him into the home, where he found compassionate people who cared for his well-being:  &#8220;Michael Oher grew up in inner-city Memphis. In and out of foster care, Michael’s lucky [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Earley</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/#comment-12159</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many hairs are being split in this discussion that simply aren&#039;t relevant to the weightiest independent variables and outcomes. Even the most carefully constructed and intricate study design is only as good as how close the researchers come to asking the right questions. With regard to measuring intelligence, I doubt anyone disputes that within every species a natural range of innate limitations exists. 

Our understanding of plasticity, however, is itself plastic. Indeed, the evolving model shifts almost annually toward more of it in one aspect or another than believed previously. But the independent variables that trump, or rather, magnify biological potential into blossoming are the intangible and trite sounding &quot;motivation&quot; and more importantly, the *trigger events* that act as an environmental wild card.  The most potent of these stem from relationships with mentors -- the ones who enter a person&#039;s life and set them on fire.  

These can be parents, yes, but quite often they are not.  The best schools come stocked with a high percentage of such mentor candidates pre-selected, primed and trained for that role. For example, in the charter high school I co-founded a few years back, this was a non-negotiable attribute we screened for in all of our teachers. Frankly, many private and charter schools do this as a matter of course. And no, this mentoring should not be confused with mere &quot;massive interventions&quot; that later wash out statistically. It is qualitatively different.

At this point, Michael Oher has been inspired by several mentors. He is still developing, and the fruit will compound and be reaped for decades -- even generations. After all, is that not the case with each of us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many hairs are being split in this discussion that simply aren&#8217;t relevant to the weightiest independent variables and outcomes. Even the most carefully constructed and intricate study design is only as good as how close the researchers come to asking the right questions. With regard to measuring intelligence, I doubt anyone disputes that within every species a natural range of innate limitations exists. </p>
<p>Our understanding of plasticity, however, is itself plastic. Indeed, the evolving model shifts almost annually toward more of it in one aspect or another than believed previously. But the independent variables that trump, or rather, magnify biological potential into blossoming are the intangible and trite sounding &#8220;motivation&#8221; and more importantly, the *trigger events* that act as an environmental wild card.  The most potent of these stem from relationships with mentors &#8212; the ones who enter a person&#8217;s life and set them on fire.  </p>
<p>These can be parents, yes, but quite often they are not.  The best schools come stocked with a high percentage of such mentor candidates pre-selected, primed and trained for that role. For example, in the charter high school I co-founded a few years back, this was a non-negotiable attribute we screened for in all of our teachers. Frankly, many private and charter schools do this as a matter of course. And no, this mentoring should not be confused with mere &#8220;massive interventions&#8221; that later wash out statistically. It is qualitatively different.</p>
<p>At this point, Michael Oher has been inspired by several mentors. He is still developing, and the fruit will compound and be reaped for decades &#8212; even generations. After all, is that not the case with each of us?</p>
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		<title>By: John Zadeh</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/#comment-7943</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, it is scores on conventional IQ tests (WAIS, Woodcock Johnson, Binet, SAT), that tend to stay relatively (to age) constant, as they are highly loaded in ‘crystallized’ content (75% crystallized, Blair estimate). These tests reflect, predominately, short term memory capacity and are hardly influenced by environment and training.

In contrast, there is plenty of evidence that has accumulated over recent years, which suggests that ‘fluid intelligence’ is highly permeable, and can increase with schooling and training. Fluid intelligence has been linked to the various structures of frontal lobe and prefrontal cortex, and significant discrepencies have been documented between conventional measures of IQ, and tests saturated in Gf. A range of mental disorders show largely negative correlation with Gf. On the other hand, it is not uncommon in individuals diagnosed with High-functioning Autism (Aspergers, HFA), to show differences of 30 or 40 points between the two factors (results, specifically, from the Raven’s, where the autistic sample showed higher fluid scores). However it is becoming more clear from theoretical work, that even among neurotypical (normal) individuals, there must be cases where through, at least some interval of time, large gf-gc differences exist. (Definitely , through childhood, and even at late adolescents and late teen, early adulthood as well). This is all very interesting, because it has come to challenge the ‘law’ of intellectual constancy, which has long been a convenient postulate, regarding general intelligence.

Intelligence is a poorly defined term, and especially so in the hands of the subset of elitist, who have aimed and ,arguably, succeeded, in monopolizing the concept. (The agenda they have, goes beyond the scope of this post) It’s value can never be measured by any written test (especially, through any arbitrary hour, posing an arbitrary set of problems). Maybe one day, we can scan a person’s brain, and infer individual limitations by elements of structure and reflex. Until that day, I think there are better measures of intelligence (and I won’t waste more time, describing this), and especially, for individuals in their adolescent and early adult years, when the brain is more plastic with regard to Gf.

But back to Michael Oher, with an 80 IQ. From what I saw in the movie, just for fun, I would guess he had a peak of about 105 and it would have been somewhere between his senior year in high school and first year in college. But to be fair, I should mention that someone who came from such an unprivileged background, was quite manageable. And such a fact, ultimately, further complicates the topic of intelligence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it is scores on conventional IQ tests (WAIS, Woodcock Johnson, Binet, SAT), that tend to stay relatively (to age) constant, as they are highly loaded in ‘crystallized’ content (75% crystallized, Blair estimate). These tests reflect, predominately, short term memory capacity and are hardly influenced by environment and training.</p>
<p>In contrast, there is plenty of evidence that has accumulated over recent years, which suggests that ‘fluid intelligence’ is highly permeable, and can increase with schooling and training. Fluid intelligence has been linked to the various structures of frontal lobe and prefrontal cortex, and significant discrepencies have been documented between conventional measures of IQ, and tests saturated in Gf. A range of mental disorders show largely negative correlation with Gf. On the other hand, it is not uncommon in individuals diagnosed with High-functioning Autism (Aspergers, HFA), to show differences of 30 or 40 points between the two factors (results, specifically, from the Raven’s, where the autistic sample showed higher fluid scores). However it is becoming more clear from theoretical work, that even among neurotypical (normal) individuals, there must be cases where through, at least some interval of time, large gf-gc differences exist. (Definitely , through childhood, and even at late adolescents and late teen, early adulthood as well). This is all very interesting, because it has come to challenge the ‘law’ of intellectual constancy, which has long been a convenient postulate, regarding general intelligence.</p>
<p>Intelligence is a poorly defined term, and especially so in the hands of the subset of elitist, who have aimed and ,arguably, succeeded, in monopolizing the concept. (The agenda they have, goes beyond the scope of this post) It’s value can never be measured by any written test (especially, through any arbitrary hour, posing an arbitrary set of problems). Maybe one day, we can scan a person’s brain, and infer individual limitations by elements of structure and reflex. Until that day, I think there are better measures of intelligence (and I won’t waste more time, describing this), and especially, for individuals in their adolescent and early adult years, when the brain is more plastic with regard to Gf.</p>
<p>But back to Michael Oher, with an 80 IQ. From what I saw in the movie, just for fun, I would guess he had a peak of about 105 and it would have been somewhere between his senior year in high school and first year in college. But to be fair, I should mention that someone who came from such an unprivileged background, was quite manageable. And such a fact, ultimately, further complicates the topic of intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: John Zadeh</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/#comment-7942</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, it is scores on conventional IQ tests (WAIS, Woodcock Johnson, Binet, SAT), that tend to stay relatively (to age) constant, as they are highly loaded in &#039;crystallized&#039; content (75% crystallized, Blair estimate).  These tests reflect, predominately, short term memory capacity and are hardly influenced by environment and training.   

In contrast, there is plenty of evidence that has accumulated over recent years, which suggests that &#039;fluid intelligence&#039; is highly permeable, and can increase with schooling and training. Fluid intelligence has been linked to the various structures of frontal lobe and prefrontal cortex, and significant discrepencies have been documented between conventional measures of IQ, and tests saturated in Gf.  A range of mental disorders show largely negative correlation with Gf. On the other hand, it is not uncommon in individuals diagnosed with High-functioning Autism (Aspergers, HFA),  to show differences of 30 or 40 points between the two factors (results, specifically, from the Raven&#039;s, where the autistic sample showed higher fluid scores).  However it is becoming more clear from theoretical work, that even among neurotypical (normal) individuals, there must be cases where through, at least some interval of time, large gf-gc differences exist.  (Definitely , through childhood, and even at late adolescents and late teen, early adulthood as well).  This is all very interesting, because it has come to challenge the &#039;law&#039; of intellectual constancy, which has long been a convenient postulate, regarding general intelligence. 

Intelligence is a poorly defined term, and especially so in the hands of the subset of elitist, who have aimed and ,arguably, succeeded, in monopolizing the concept.  (The agenda they have, goes beyond the scope of this post)  It&#039;s value can never be measured by any written test (especially, through any arbitrary hour, posing an arbitrary set of problems).  Maybe one day, we can scan a person&#039;s brain, and infer individual limitations by elements of structure and reflex.  Until that day, I think there are better measures of intelligence (and I won&#039;t waste more time, describing this), and especially, for individuals in their adolescent and early adult years, when the brain is more plastic with regard to Gf. 

But back to Michael Oher, with an 80 IQ.  From what I saw in the movie, just for fun, I would guess he had a peak of about 105 and it would have been somewhere between his senior year in high school and first year in college.  But to be fair, I should mention that someone who came from such an unprivileged background, was quite manageable.  And such a fact,  ultimately, further complicates the topic of intelligence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it is scores on conventional IQ tests (WAIS, Woodcock Johnson, Binet, SAT), that tend to stay relatively (to age) constant, as they are highly loaded in &#8216;crystallized&#8217; content (75% crystallized, Blair estimate).  These tests reflect, predominately, short term memory capacity and are hardly influenced by environment and training.   </p>
<p>In contrast, there is plenty of evidence that has accumulated over recent years, which suggests that &#8216;fluid intelligence&#8217; is highly permeable, and can increase with schooling and training. Fluid intelligence has been linked to the various structures of frontal lobe and prefrontal cortex, and significant discrepencies have been documented between conventional measures of IQ, and tests saturated in Gf.  A range of mental disorders show largely negative correlation with Gf. On the other hand, it is not uncommon in individuals diagnosed with High-functioning Autism (Aspergers, HFA),  to show differences of 30 or 40 points between the two factors (results, specifically, from the Raven&#8217;s, where the autistic sample showed higher fluid scores).  However it is becoming more clear from theoretical work, that even among neurotypical (normal) individuals, there must be cases where through, at least some interval of time, large gf-gc differences exist.  (Definitely , through childhood, and even at late adolescents and late teen, early adulthood as well).  This is all very interesting, because it has come to challenge the &#8216;law&#8217; of intellectual constancy, which has long been a convenient postulate, regarding general intelligence. </p>
<p>Intelligence is a poorly defined term, and especially so in the hands of the subset of elitist, who have aimed and ,arguably, succeeded, in monopolizing the concept.  (The agenda they have, goes beyond the scope of this post)  It&#8217;s value can never be measured by any written test (especially, through any arbitrary hour, posing an arbitrary set of problems).  Maybe one day, we can scan a person&#8217;s brain, and infer individual limitations by elements of structure and reflex.  Until that day, I think there are better measures of intelligence (and I won&#8217;t waste more time, describing this), and especially, for individuals in their adolescent and early adult years, when the brain is more plastic with regard to Gf. </p>
<p>But back to Michael Oher, with an 80 IQ.  From what I saw in the movie, just for fun, I would guess he had a peak of about 105 and it would have been somewhere between his senior year in high school and first year in college.  But to be fair, I should mention that someone who came from such an unprivileged background, was quite manageable.  And such a fact,  ultimately, further complicates the topic of intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Golem</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/#comment-6005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not education that is failing these kids. It is their parents and the predominant culture in which they grow up. 

Ohr&#039;s mom was a drug addict and his father wasn&#039;t around. The statistical probability of one or both of those situations occurring is much higher in the Black community within the United States. This is a systemic problem of &#039;Culture&#039; rather than one of education. 

Regarding vouchers, they work precisely because they allow parents who aren&#039;t willing to let their kids remain part of that culture, remove their kids from those cultural influences and into more positive environments where those influences are muted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not education that is failing these kids. It is their parents and the predominant culture in which they grow up. </p>
<p>Ohr&#8217;s mom was a drug addict and his father wasn&#8217;t around. The statistical probability of one or both of those situations occurring is much higher in the Black community within the United States. This is a systemic problem of &#8216;Culture&#8217; rather than one of education. </p>
<p>Regarding vouchers, they work precisely because they allow parents who aren&#8217;t willing to let their kids remain part of that culture, remove their kids from those cultural influences and into more positive environments where those influences are muted.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Forster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Forster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it were true that home influences were the only thing that mattered to educational outcomes, random assignment studies of voucher programs would show that vouchers make no difference. But they consistently show the opposite. Yes, home influences are important. That doesn&#039;t mean other influences are not also important. The empirical evidence consistently shows that both home influences and school quality (and other factors as well) make a difference to educational outcomes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were true that home influences were the only thing that mattered to educational outcomes, random assignment studies of voucher programs would show that vouchers make no difference. But they consistently show the opposite. Yes, home influences are important. That doesn&#8217;t mean other influences are not also important. The empirical evidence consistently shows that both home influences and school quality (and other factors as well) make a difference to educational outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: John_Stamps</title>
		<link>http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/#comment-4592</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The schools are not the problem.  Academic success always has and always will begin at home.  This is one situation where conservatives and liberals are wrong. Neither more money nor charter schools will fix the problem.  Discipline is the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The schools are not the problem.  Academic success always has and always will begin at home.  This is one situation where conservatives and liberals are wrong. Neither more money nor charter schools will fix the problem.  Discipline is the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: michael oher story &#124; Latest Breaking News Trends</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Charles Murray vs. Michael Oher &#8221; Jay P. Greene&#8217;s Blog Michael Lewis&#8217; book The Blind Side tells a fascinating story &#8230; This is where the story intersects with education. Michael Oher grew up in inner-city Memphis [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Charles Murray vs. Michael Oher &#8221; Jay P. Greene&#8217;s Blog Michael Lewis&#8217; book The Blind Side tells a fascinating story &#8230; This is where the story intersects with education. Michael Oher grew up in inner-city Memphis [...]</p>
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		<title>By: michael lewis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Side is put into context over the debate on school reform and the debate over the nature of IQ.http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/Michael Lewis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMichael lewis may refer to: michael lewis [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Side is put into context over the debate on school reform and the debate over the nature of IQ.<a href="http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/Michael" rel="nofollow">http://jaypgreene.com/2008/05/10/charles-murray-vs-michael-oher/Michael</a> Lewis &#8211; Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMichael lewis may refer to: michael lewis [...]</p>
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